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willyweekly
Mitglied seit in Jul 2015

414 Beiträge
21. August 2020
Virtua girl and desktop babes are now one group.
different levels but now are one group.

Idancer was/is a different level.
Is Idancer going to be a part of Istripper?

Philours
Mitglied seit in Feb 2019

1659 Beiträge
21. August 2020
Pour moi, c’est le ca. C’est le point culminant du strip-tease. Nous ne sommes pas dans un club de bikini ici.

Non nous ne sommes pas sur un site Bikinis
Nous sommes sur un site de strip-tease
Nous ne sommes pas sur un site porno hard. Il y a déjà des filles qui vont très loin.
Pour moi, tout est bon ! x ou non.

No we are not on a Bikinis site
We're on a strip site
We are not on a hard porn site. There are already girls who go very far.
For me, everything is good! x or not.
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
21. August 2020
For me, the important matter is the strip-tease.
I'm on this site to see *naked* girls.

I am also on this site for the striptease. Which does not necessarily involve any nakedness, and certainly not does not necessarily involve "spread legs" or the like.

Teasing is about not delivering, about maintaining a feeling of anticip....ation.
Philours
Mitglied seit in Feb 2019

1659 Beiträge
21. August 2020
a crappy arse performance

Ullubu
Mitglied seit in Dec 2011

748 Beiträge
21. August 2020
For me, everything is good! x or not.

And I'm still not talking about XXX only 'full nudity'. Showing some pussy is no where near XXX. XXX is inserting thing in it.
Philours
Mitglied seit in Feb 2019

1659 Beiträge
21. August 2020
xxx n'est pas pour moi : insérer quelque chose dans le sexe!

C'est ici que nous ne sommes pas d'accord.

Masturbation, jambes écartées sur sexe ouvert est aussi xxx

Question d'appréciation.

xxx is not for me: insert something into sex!

This is where we disagree.

Masturbation, legs spread on open sex is also xxx

Question of appreciation.
pickle1
MODERATOR
Mitglied seit in Mar 2019

1353 Beiträge
21. August 2020
For me, the important matter is the strip-tease.
I'm on this site to see *naked* girls.
I am also on this site for the striptease. Which does not necessarily involve any nakedness, and certainly not does not necessarily involve "spread legs" or the like.

Teasing is about not delivering, about maintaining a feeling of anticip....ation.

It's just a jump to the left.......

😉
Ullubu
Mitglied seit in Dec 2011

748 Beiträge
21. August 2020
xxx n'est pas pour moi : insérer quelque chose dans le sexe!

C'est ici que nous ne sommes pas d'accord.

Masturbation, jambes écartées sur sexe ouvert est aussi xxx

Question d'appréciation.

xxx is not for me: insert something into sex!

This is where we disagree.

Masturbation, legs spread on open sex is also xxx

Question of appreciation.

Read Totems definition of levels.
Full nudity includes showing the pussy and light rubbing.
XXX is inserting things.
I'm only talking about those defined levels and not what you think those levels should be.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/39011/1#post574198
Du bist nicht befugt dieses Thema zu sehen oder auf mit dem Thema verwandte Daten zuzugreifen
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
21. August 2020
@pickle1

I am glad that you noticed the allusion.
Philours
Mitglied seit in Feb 2019

1659 Beiträge
21. August 2020
Il s'agit la aussi d'une interprétation
Mais le débat n'est pas la. On parle de striptease. et il ne doit pas nécessairement se terminé par une scène jambes ouvertes comme vous voulez
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
21. August 2020 (edited)
@gkar45 - you did not have to be so blatant in showing that you recognised the allusion. You could have teased a little, like pickle1 did, without revealing everything. A nice analogy to the two points of view over the subject of this thread.
zzmaskers
Mitglied seit in Mar 2011

608 Beiträge
21. August 2020
But when Irina Gubeva is attracting so much Attention in the Comments Section,
then i would say she is with one of the best Additions on iStripper in 2020, don't you think?
@Stanston Irina Gubeva should be given for this reason the title Talent of the Year 2020 with full approvement of @gkar (who maybe still doubts or it Nici should be).
iStripperteam could choose her already as Talent of September 2020. With all the attention spent at her not more than logical!😄
BJlover
Mitglied seit in Apr 2014

234 Beiträge
22. August 2020 (edited)
Strip-tease, is not necessarily: naked girl, legs spread out

Sorry guys, maybe I misrepresented my thoughts.
As I have said in other topics, I am not a native speaker.
I just wanted to say that for me (and I remark for my taste) the strip-tease should always end with a full nude.
Other types of striptease, where the girls do not finish the show completely naked, are more related to "burlesque" (or at least here in Italy we consider it so).
As Ullubu said, I'm not talking about XXX (or "sexual explicit"), but for me the strip-tease should always be "full nudity".
This is my thought.
RAGORN
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007

208 Beiträge
22. August 2020
@zzmaskers
But when Irina Gubeva is attracting so much Attention in the Comments Section,
then i would say she is with one of the best Additions on iStripper in 2020, don't you think?

If the purpose of a striptease is to frustrate the viewer and leaving him wanted more, then the lovely Irina is certainly doing something right 😛
BJlover
Mitglied seit in Apr 2014

234 Beiträge
22. August 2020
If the purpose of a striptease is to frustrate the viewer and leaving him wanted more, then the lovely Irina is certainly doing something right 😛

In fact, that is exactly what I don't want: for me, the strip-tease should be a rewarding show.
The undressing girl should gradually increase the climax until she reaches the full body exposure
I wouldn't want to spend money to remain disappointed ...
dolphins109
Mitglied seit in Feb 2011

794 Beiträge
22. August 2020 (edited)
well it seems like i rubbed some people the wrong way in how i present my question. should nudity be the same as toppless.. and here is why i ask i have no problem playing a nudity show no matter who it is . the only problem i have is when it comes to the model moving a certain way as to spread her legs to proform a move she hides her self this in my opinion restricts the show as a member once stated the show would have been much better if she would have kept her panties on. and that's reason why i ask the question 😐ps @Stanston to answer your question with all fairness and respect YES I DO.
orclover
Mitglied seit in Jun 2012

744 Beiträge
22. August 2020
What I'm disappointed with, regarding recent votes of some of the cards, is that some girls get very unjust beating.

Clearly Totem has agreed about the content of the performance and the level of nudity of it, before the performance. I have no doubt that Irina Gubeva has made it perfectly clear of 1) what she wants to do and 2) what she is not comfortable to do - and Totem must have accepted "the terms" because they did hire her to perform! That much should be obvious.

So, I'm disappointed to read some comments at Irina Gubeva's latest show, using quite harsh language against her.

People responsible for those comments, should instead send that criticism to Totem directly (e.g. email customer support) instead of using the cards comment page to vent your frustration. It is not right for the girl who came to give us shows Totem asked for (since they hired her)!

The comments page should be for the performance alone, not about Totem's policy of choosing the content and level of nudity they want to publish for each card/performer - and certainly not against the girl, who gave an excellent performance under the terms agreed with Totem.

The quality of her cards is specifically affected by her ***** of showing full nudity. It effects her dancing and moving and becomes merely an exercise in hiding something and not an entertaining show. Totem does need to see that people want a good dancer, a good entertainer...what we often get with "nudity" cards is a lack of nudity but also a poor performance because the girl is dancing with her knees glued together or without facing the camera with her front or posterior. Partial cards should not be sold for full price and should not be placed in pre-orders.
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
22. August 2020
If the purpose of a striptease is to frustrate the viewer and leaving him wanted more, then the lovely Irina is certainly doing something right 😛

In fact, that is exactly what I don't want: for me, the strip-tease should be a rewarding show.
The undressing girl should gradually increase the climax until she reaches the full body exposure
I wouldn't want to spend money to remain disappointed ...

I very much agree with the first of these views, much less so with the second. I do expect that a striptease should end with the performer totally unclothed (except perhaps for shoes, stockings or a hat) but I am more than happy if that is only for a few seconds at the climax of each striptease sequence (of which a card typically has several).

In fact for Irina's show I feel that that she spends far too much time fully unclothed. I think that shows of this general type would be better concentrating on the stripping and teasing (which Irina does excellently) rather than the nude dancing - and that the strong points of her performances could be enhanced by letting her wear more clothing at the start of each strip sequence giving her more scope to do what she does best.
Dfner
Mitglied seit in Feb 2018

643 Beiträge
22. August 2020
@orclover

Basically I agree with you, but with Irina's cards I find it actually quite endearing when she covers herself up at every turn and change of posture 😋 It adds some comedy value to the shows, when you think "can she do it? can she really move from that stance without showing anything? ...YES she could!" 😀

Of course I don't want every show to be like that, but when the girl is that beautiful, I really don't mind.

And I also would prefer there to be a "reward" at the end, when the strip is over and there's no covering anymore. BUT the fact that there isn't that with Irina's shows, it just shows that she really is that shy and there is that element of discomfort. She is not playing any role but she is what we see. We see her perform herself, in a way. A few models here and there who do "mere" Nudity-level shows, is perfectly fine with me.

Whether Nudity-shows should cost less than Full Nudity-shows, I don't know if I agree or not. Should XXX-shows then cost more than Full Nudity -shows? If they are priced differently, I think it might lead to some inbalance in the inventory. I think the balance of show types (XXX / Full Nudity / Nudity) is pretty ok now.
Ullubu
Mitglied seit in Dec 2011

748 Beiträge
22. August 2020
The quality of her cards is specifically affected by her ***** of showing full nudity. It effects her dancing and moving and becomes merely an exercise in hiding something and not an entertaining show. Totem does need to see that people want a good dancer, a good entertainer...what we often get with "nudity" cards is a lack of nudity but also a poor performance because the girl is dancing with her knees glued together or without facing the camera with her front or posterior. Partial cards should not be sold for full price and should not be placed in pre-orders.

I fully agree.

Philours
Mitglied seit in Feb 2019

1659 Beiträge
22. August 2020
Désolé, mais je ne suis toujours pas d'accord.

Sorry, but I still don't agree.
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
22. August 2020
Partial cards should not be sold for full price and should not be placed in pre-orders.

But the cards in question are not partial cards. They may not be to your taste but they are full cards featuring full stripteases.
Philours
Mitglied seit in Feb 2019

1659 Beiträge
22. August 2020
Mais les cartes en question ne sont pas des cartes partielles. Ils ne sont peut-être pas à votre goût, mais ce sont des cartes complètes avec des strip-teases complets.

La, je suis d'accord 👌
BJlover
Mitglied seit in Apr 2014

234 Beiträge
22. August 2020
I do expect that a striptease should end with the performer totally unclothed (except perhaps for shoes, stockings or a hat) but I am more than happy if that is only for a few seconds at the climax of each striptease sequence (of which a card typically has several).

I think it's a matter of personal taste.
If you are happy this way, it's good for you (but not for me).

In fact for Irina's show I feel that that she spends far too much time fully unclothed. I think that shows of this general type would be better concentrating on the stripping and teasing (which Irina does excellently) rather than the nude dancing - and that the strong points of her performances could be enhanced by letting her wear more clothing at the start of each strip sequence giving her more scope to do what she does best.

To me, she just seems ashamed to show herself and worried about how to hide her pussy and ass to the camera ...
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
22. August 2020
I think it's a matter of personal taste.
If you are happy this way, it's good for you (but not for me).

Yes, it is a matter of personal taste. That is why I do not say that all cards should be in accordance to that taste or that cards that do not should be cheaper.
BJlover
Mitglied seit in Apr 2014

234 Beiträge
22. August 2020 (edited)
Yes, it is a matter of personal taste. That is why I do not say that all cards should be in accordance to that taste or that cards that do not should be cheaper.

In fact, I was just trying to express my opinion on the subject of this post: if I could vote for "Nudity", "Full Nudity" or "XXX", surely my choice would be "Full Nudity" and "XXX" only.
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
22. August 2020 (edited)
@BJlover - thats fair enough, but others have stated that cards that are not to their taste should never be made and have no place in iStripper, or that they should be cheaper.
BJlover
Mitglied seit in Apr 2014

234 Beiträge
22. August 2020
... others have stated that cards that are not to their tastes should never be made and have no place in iStripper, or that they should be cheaper.

Not my thought. As I just said, I only want to express my tastes.
arise77
Mitglied seit in Mar 2008

196 Beiträge
22. August 2020
I don't mind Nudity only shows, as long as the model feels comfortable naked.
Having nude art models once in a while is ok for me, I just hope it doesn't become a standard. It looks like there are a few more to come: Audalove, Miluniel, Savanah Wildchild...
RAGORN
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007

208 Beiträge
22. August 2020 (edited)
@TheEmu
I do expect that a striptease should end with the performer totally unclothed (except perhaps for shoes, stockings or a hat) but I am more than happy if that is only for a few seconds at the climax of each striptease sequence (of which a card typically has several).

In fact for Irina's show I feel that that she spends far too much time fully unclothed. I think that shows of this general type would be better concentrating on the stripping and teasing (which Irina does excellently) rather than the nude dancing - and that the strong points of her performances could be enhanced by letting her wear more clothing at the start of each strip sequence giving her more scope to do what she does best.

I largely share your point of view 👍

In fact, it doesn't matter to me that the model end completely naked, since she can remain clothed while flashing the viewer. For example, It would be the case in a well executed upskirt show (something Totem constantly fail the achieve, by the way). In her show "Sexecutive", Irina has the perfect skirt to do it.

To answer the OP question, I'm open to every kind of show, as well as the model is comfortable in what she does, is beautiful, mostly natural and is a good performer. I enjoy Irina's kind of show, as well as I find enthralling performance from Carolina Abril 😍, Polly Pons 😵or Martina Smeraldi 😈. In Irina's case, you're absolutely right to say that she "would be better concentrating on the stripping and teasing [...] rather than the nude dancing".

For those who ***** that this type of show will become the norm, I believe they don't have to worry about that. Totem is well aware of what sell and what isn't. They simply had an hard time finding models during the pandemic, so they concentrated their search in France for a while. We'll come back the to former reality as soon as international travels will be allowed again. Meanwhile, I'm more than happy to get some softer shows for a while.

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