Sound: How can you tell which cards have sound (ie the stripper talking)?

These days, if a card has the XXX rating, then chances are that a few of the clips have sound.

I'm not talking about the full-on iStripper XXX designated cards but any card that may only have one or two clips with XXX rating. These things have been merged recently.

Easiest way to tell thru the previews is that if a card has XXX rating and in a demo clip, you see her lips moving as if talking, then it should have sound😉

Didn't want to open a new thread for this, so I'll ask this here...

As far as I know, cards that are released under c- and f-series, have sound included (I know there are some f-series cards where the sound is missing due to issues in recording or post processing, but nonetheless this seems to be the "rule").

Does anyone know any exceptions to this rule, i.e. are there any a-series or e-series cards released with sound?

I think there is indeed a very very small number of e-cards which have just a short first clip (or maybe even a preview only) with sound, during which the girl introduces herself. I think it did happen approx. in 2017, but I would not be able to tell which cards have such a feature.

@HansSachs Ok, thanks for the info.

I'm going through some randomly sorted table clips and there are some lengthy table scenes in both a- and e-series cards that don't seem to me to have been performed to music (I don't really know that, of course), and I was just thinking if they had actually recorded the action at some point. Haven't found such case yet.

Which I connect to another question I have sometimes thought about... is the hotness level always decided before filming or does it happen that they change the plans due to the content not being "daring" enough for f-series, or too daring for e-series? In the first case, if that happens, they might have recorded the sound despite the card ending up in the e-series.

@Dfner

An explanation previously given by Totem as to why some of the a and e series cards have an XXX rating is that the model went a little further than was intended. I doubt that the reverse, not going far enough for what was intended to be a XXX card, has occurred.

@TheEmu

Do you happen to know what these f-series cards (that were intended to be e-series originally) might be? My own guess is that Gloria's "Desirable" (f0174) might be one of them(?) - and it does have sound.

This - if Gloria's card is one of them - would suggest, that even when they are producing an e-series card, the sound is actually recorded, and they just choose to leave it out from the release.

Just speculating...

EDIT: actually, that Gloria's card has so many XXX-clips in it that it probably isn't one of them...

@Dfner

Do you happen to know what these f-series cards (that were intended to be e-series originally) might be?

They are not c or f series, they are XXX rated a or e series.

@HansSachs Ok, thanks for the info. I'm going through some randomly sorted table clips and there are some lengthy table scenes in both a- and e-series cards that don't seem to me to have been performed to music (I don't really know that, of course), and I was just thinking if they had actually recorded the action at some point. Haven't found such case yet.Which I connect to another question I have sometimes thought about... is the hotness level always decided before filming or does it happen that they change the plans due to the content not being "daring" enough for f-series, or too daring for e-series? In the first case, if that happens, they might have recorded the sound despite the card ending up in the e-series.

I'm only throwing in my opinion or observations - nothing based on inside knowledge.

I didn't think they used music on the table scenes because there is no dancing. I have certainly found some full-nudity table clips that had sound and I have even encountered the odd standing clip where you could hear the model's footsteps on the stage. I wonder if sound is always recorded but often not used because it is either too distracting or maybe you can hear directorial comments. On Eva Elfie "Deep In My Pink" in one clip you can hear someone opening and closing a door in the background!

@TheEmu Gotcha... I had never noticed how many cards there are with hotness level XXX in both a- and e-series cards. Over 200 in both. For some reason I mistakenly made the connection F-series = xxx, E-series = Full nudity... Apparently I have never paid much attention to the levels :)

@pickle1 It seems that generally whether card has sound or not depends on the series it is released. I just tested a couple of e-series cards that have hotness level XXX, and you can't hear sound in any table clip, no matter if its rated "Full nudity" or "Sexually explicit". For f-series cards, you on the other hand have sound in table clips whatever the hotness level. For e-series, either the sound is not recorded when they are being produced or it is for some reason removed before release.

I'm sure most people knew this already, but I had never paid that much attention.

An explanation previously given by Totem as to why some of the a and e series cards have an XXX rating is that the model went a little further than was intended.

Personally I even don't think for the case (which some years ago did happen many times) @TheEmu is talking about any explanation or justification would have be needed; a final XXX clip was just a good thing, which used to happen, sometimes, before the general XXX clips amount was strongly reduced; and which I would like to see happen again sometimes.

I didn't think they used music on the table scenes because there is no dancing.

I think in most cases there was no music indeed, so my personal preference would be to get the sound recorded and played, with the model talking to us, also in table clips of e-cards.

And right after I wrote my latest post, I can see that there are at least some older f-series cards, where the "Full nudity" table clips are without sound while the "Sexually explicit" table clips do have sound... it is more varied than I thought.

I had never noticed how many cards there are with hotness level XXX in both a- and e-series cards.

It has to be pointed, also, that another probable reason for such a thing was precisely the fact Virtuagirl and Deskbabes were two separated products, at the tIme.
I mean: the neverending debate about XXX content was already there, and, while some people would have preferred XXX content to be always and only on Deskbabes, there were also some people who would have appreciated to see some XXX clips on the ordinary product too, sometimes - and production of such clips was probably aimed at them.
Personally, aIso, I don't think there ever has been - both in "separated products" and in "only a product" times, any model who went too far - or less far - than how planned: this is a professional product with professional models, so in any case models did probably - and it was shooted by crew - just the content which had been planned, and agreed to, in advance.

@HansSachs

The explanation by Totem was not given as a justification for the XXX content for which, as you rightly say, no justification was needed. If I remember correctly the explanation by Totem was given because people were asking why these cards were rated XXX for very ***** "infractions" of the maximum eroticism expected of an a or e series card. The main point of the explanation was that because there was some XXX content in at least one clip, no matter how briefly, then that clip and hence the card had to be XXX rated. Later, I believe, some deliberate, mild, XXX action in e series cards was allowed, but less than in even the softest of the f series.

f-series cards, where the "Full nudity" table clips are without sound while the "Sexually explicit" table clips do have sound...

Yes, there are such cards too, even now. Since XXX clips amount has been reduced, now ordinarily all table clips (normally 3) present on a f-card are XXX (and have sound), but sometimes it can be seen one (in some case even two) table clip(s) more, usually of "Full nudity" level - and it still can happen they not to have sound.

Later, I believe, some deliberate, mild, XXX action in e series cards was allowed,

There of course never have been toys and similar (apart the famous suncream accident), but sometimes such action was not so mild, even in some older cards prior of introduction of Deskbabes, though. Anyway I like such content, so no complaints from me.

Although I am not very interrested in the sound aspect of the clips and cards there are many that are. For those users I think that it would be useful if the clip list for each card indicated which clips had sound and which not - e.g. by a loudspeaker icon among those displayed for each clip. As the presence or ***** of sound is a property of the clips that can be determined by software, rather than needed to be established by manual inspection, this should not be an onerous task.

it would be useful if the clip list for each card indicated which clips had sound and which not - e.g. by a loudspeaker icon

I agree with this.

I also think it is good idea, and hopefully possible for Totem to implement.

Or maybe this info could be even incorporated in the clip-names as is lots of other information.

Just as a side-note, there are a few talking transition clips. They are coded as it08. I have 11 of them in my collection, one per card. The card numbers are

c0632
f0035
f0036
f0039
f0040
f0050
f0051
f0053
f0068
f0129
f0130

I just my Playlist Generator to put them all into a single "Hello" playlist. That's about the only way I know to make them play.

There are a few speaking e-series clips. I once had a list, but I lost it.

Thanks for the info @Dorsai6 ! There are in total 18 of these talking "hello" -transition clips according to your Playlist Generator, the remaining seven are:

c0633 Amirah Adara & Vanessa Decker
f0037 Kyra Hot
f0038 Aurelly Rebel
f0041 Lucy Heart
f0052 Kiara Lord
f0054 Stella Cox
f0055 Stella Cox