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About the use of "Skinny" in iStripper software Forum / Alles über iStripper
RAGORN
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007 208 Beiträge
5. June 2017
Since English is not my native language, I guess I'm not the best person to start a semantic debate here. Nevertheless, I just found that women such as Ariana Marie, Isizzu, Gracy ***** or Lucy Li are labelled as "skinny" by the software. As far as I know, this term refers to someone of extreme slimness, on the verge of being unhealthy. It's literally a person who has only skin and bones on her.
Since the women I named earlier seem perfectly healthy in my opinion, I was wondering if the term "skinny" was not rather insulting than descriptive. Should Totem use a word like slender or slim in order to describe them properly?
What do the English speakers think about it ?
Since the women I named earlier seem perfectly healthy in my opinion, I was wondering if the term "skinny" was not rather insulting than descriptive. Should Totem use a word like slender or slim in order to describe them properly?
What do the English speakers think about it ?
pantalone
Mitglied seit in Nov 2010 224 Beiträge
5. June 2017
In my London version of English, the word skinny is a derivation of "skin & bones" and usually has a negative implication. But this is iS and it has a charming linguistic style of its own - clunky! @KP is right, "slender" would be a more flattering word, though my expansively proportioned granny would probably have used "skinny" to describe all the performers on the site. My problem with the category is that its use is so inconsistent as to be meaningless. Lucy Li has slim hips, but some of her other bits are distinctly generous.
What depresses me about this topic is @Raghorn's comment is is such perfect English that I would never have guessed that he isn't a native speaker. If only I could write a second language with such confidence!
What depresses me about this topic is @Raghorn's comment is is such perfect English that I would never have guessed that he isn't a native speaker. If only I could write a second language with such confidence!
shodan084
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007 1652 Beiträge
5. June 2017 (edited)
The antonym of "skinny" being "fat" and you could imagine the s**t storm if that word was used about models... :)
Usually used to describe a size zero model. I'd not think we have one of those here...
Thin; fine, slender... twiggy. :) (Antonym; "Plump")
Usually used to describe a size zero model. I'd not think we have one of those here...
Thin; fine, slender... twiggy. :) (Antonym; "Plump")
5. June 2017
In the french GUI, the description is "mince" and not "maigre". The word "mince" is just perfect to describe a slender woman like Katya Clover for example.
And for the voluptous women like Anais Hills, the description only mentions "grosse poitrine" (big breast).
And for the voluptous women like Anais Hills, the description only mentions "grosse poitrine" (big breast).
EverthangForever
Mitglied seit in Oct 2009 2506 Beiträge
5. June 2017 (edited)
@stefnev agree, Fat would be insulting/abnormal and its vernacular opposite 'Skinny' derives a similar connotation. As @Katz says 'Slender' or Slim would be more appropriate. It is a bit like..'Naked feet' sounds peculiar here whereas 'Bare feet would sound more normal to a native english speaker.
RAGORN
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007 208 Beiträge
6. June 2017
@pantalone: Just like you, I really don't understand how Lucy Li has end up in the "skinny" category. You're right when you're saying "that its use is so inconsistent as to be meaningless". There are several qualifiers to describe her but skinny is definitely not one of them.
And my thanks for your kind words, but I'm not so fluent in English. I must confess that I get some help from a translation software. The software corrects me, then I correct it by reconstructing the suggested sentences so as to express my ideas in the best possible way. And since I read rather well in English, I am normally able to determine whether the final form resembles at some suitable form of English😄
@shodan084: yeah, skinny and fat are not quite elegant to describe people. This is why I think Totem should avoid from using them.
Thank's for clarifying it @stefnev1. I was actually wondering exactly what word was used in French. "Mince" is indeed more appropriate than "maigre". This is why I'm looking for the equivalence in English.
So it seems that "slender" could advantageously replace the present use of the word "skinny" and would be both more elegant and more representative. So I hope that someone from the team stumbles across this thread and gives it some thoughts.
And now remains another question: how would you describe a really thin women. Jewel for example?😶
And my thanks for your kind words, but I'm not so fluent in English. I must confess that I get some help from a translation software. The software corrects me, then I correct it by reconstructing the suggested sentences so as to express my ideas in the best possible way. And since I read rather well in English, I am normally able to determine whether the final form resembles at some suitable form of English
@shodan084: yeah, skinny and fat are not quite elegant to describe people. This is why I think Totem should avoid from using them.
In the french GUI, the description is "mince" and not "maigre". The word "mince" is just perfect to describe a slender woman like Katya Clover for example.
Thank's for clarifying it @stefnev1. I was actually wondering exactly what word was used in French. "Mince" is indeed more appropriate than "maigre". This is why I'm looking for the equivalence in English.
So it seems that "slender" could advantageously replace the present use of the word "skinny" and would be both more elegant and more representative. So I hope that someone from the team stumbles across this thread and gives it some thoughts.
And now remains another question: how would you describe a really thin women. Jewel for example?
pantalone
Mitglied seit in Nov 2010 224 Beiträge
6. June 2017
What word to describe really thin women? Reckon you'd be into slang words that could be construed as unkind - scrawny or scratty come to mind. But not in relation to Jewel, who is/was a dancer, so her body is honed for a purpose.
While we're on the subject of Categories We'd Like To See (but won't), how about:
Wriggly
Pneumatic
Bendy
Deliciously Cloddish
Wirey
Bouncy
Immobile
But variety is the spice of striptease...we love 'em all!
While we're on the subject of Categories We'd Like To See (but won't), how about:
Wriggly
Pneumatic
Bendy
Deliciously Cloddish
Wirey
Bouncy
Immobile
But variety is the spice of striptease...we love 'em all!
shodan084
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007 1652 Beiträge
6. June 2017 (edited)
attenuated; to make thin; make slender or fine. ;)
TUT69
Mitglied seit in Jan 2017 42 Beiträge
7. June 2017
Skinny is in the eye of the beholder. My brother always said that I was looking for an Ethopian on a diet! Guess I like Skinny!!
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012 3309 Beiträge
7. June 2017 (edited)
Like others I have always found Totem's use of the word "skinny" as a tag to be in somewhat poor taste as it is often used elsewhere as a criticism or even as an insult. The alternative "slender" suggested by KatzPaw is much better, but although the dictionary defintions I have seen do not say so I have always thought that slender also implies some degree of tallness when applied to a human. I can not imagine refering to anyone who is 5 foot 4 inches tall as slender - "tall and slender" seems a natural pairing but "short and slender" seems strange. I think the best word to replace "skinny" would be "slim".
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012 3309 Beiträge
7. June 2017
Slim is so plain!
Agreed, but would you really call someone under 5 foot 6 inches slender no matter how thin they were? I certainly wouldn't. There seem to be quite a few of the models tagged as skinny that are a long way from being tall - Gloria for example is only 5 foot 1 inches (1.56 metres) tall according to her cards.
shodan084
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007 1652 Beiträge
7. June 2017
sylphlike? But... who is *****?
lissome? Doesn't exactly trip off the tongue.
Elfin? :)
lissome? Doesn't exactly trip off the tongue.
Elfin? :)
RAGORN
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007 208 Beiträge
7. June 2017
@The Emu: Thanks for your insights. It led me to dig deeper into the matter, and I found some interesting nuances in the Cambridge dictionary:
"Probably the most commonly used adjective to describe someone who has too little fat is thin. ‘Thin’ is often used in a negative way: She’s very pretty but she’s too thin. Skinny, a slightly informal word, means very much the same: I don’t like his looks – he’s too skinny.
The above adjectives are generally negative, but there are as many adjectives to describe people who are thin in a way that is positive. Probably the most common of these is slim. If someone is slim they are quite thin in a way that is attractive: Charlotte was looking lovely and slim in the photos. Other synonyms for ‘slim’ have an extra meaning in addition to ‘having little fat’. Slender, for example, means ‘slim and graceful’: She was small and slender, like a dancer. Lean describes someone who is slim and strong: Long-distance runners are usually fairly lean. Petite, which is positive in tone, means ‘short and slim’ and is only used for women and girls."
End of quotation
https://dictionaryblog.cambridge.org/2012/05/07/body-shapes/
I saw somewhere else what you mean with the coupling of "tall and slender", even if the Cambridge dictionary doesn't do it.
So, shall we use "petite" to describe a small and slim woman and "slender" to describe a taller but equally one slim woman?
"Probably the most commonly used adjective to describe someone who has too little fat is thin. ‘Thin’ is often used in a negative way: She’s very pretty but she’s too thin. Skinny, a slightly informal word, means very much the same: I don’t like his looks – he’s too skinny.
The above adjectives are generally negative, but there are as many adjectives to describe people who are thin in a way that is positive. Probably the most common of these is slim. If someone is slim they are quite thin in a way that is attractive: Charlotte was looking lovely and slim in the photos. Other synonyms for ‘slim’ have an extra meaning in addition to ‘having little fat’. Slender, for example, means ‘slim and graceful’: She was small and slender, like a dancer. Lean describes someone who is slim and strong: Long-distance runners are usually fairly lean. Petite, which is positive in tone, means ‘short and slim’ and is only used for women and girls."
End of quotation
https://dictionaryblog.cambridge.org/2012/05/07/body-shapes/
I saw somewhere else what you mean with the coupling of "tall and slender", even if the Cambridge dictionary doesn't do it.
So, shall we use "petite" to describe a small and slim woman and "slender" to describe a taller but equally one slim woman?
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