As you might be aware of, the model named Camilla in VirtuaGirl sued Totem Entertainment in 2010 alleging we were using her images without her authorization.

For reasons I won't develop here as we appealed from this decision, we've been asked by law, on June 2011 to remove all of her images and videos from all websites we are managing.

As we're getting ready for the appeal, this model now says we did not remove her images and videos from our websites as we should have.

I know we removed all her images and videos from our websites and even refunded members who bought her, but it's not easy to prove. It would really help us if thoses of you that were already using VirtuaGirl in 2011 and saw what we did back then could comment and testify on the actions we took.

Thanks in advance for your participation.

Doesn't she have to prove that you didn't do that?
If I claim something why should others have to prove that my claim is wrong?
I would have to show proofs for my claim.
Well I don't have any Screenshots to prove it either but i was around in 2011 and i can testify that you removed her photos and videos from your site in 2011 just like you did this year with Divine. But like it also is still with Divine those who owned her shows could still download them from the server but just the show no photos or videos including the card pic for the shows. It was just a few months ago that the shows couldn't be downloaded anymore also if the user has the card in his collection. So as it is now if we don't backup the show files we loose them if we have to set up VG again.

What i don't get is how she could produce 6 shows without having any idea that what is produced will be used. I do assume she signed a treaty and got paid for the shows and photo and video shooting.

The legal systems seem designed to benefit lawyers, which is why Totem must defend against spurious claims, as well as put a burden of proof on the other party.

Totem should be able to offer the threads concerning Camilla as evidence. There were members who ***** about her shows no longer being available, and they were told why.

I experienced this withdrawal of Camilla’s shows, and Divine’s. I understand a young woman wanting to take her life in a new direction, but think she should do it straight up like Divine, instead of blaming others for her decisions.

I was around in 2011. That when it first came to light that Camilla no longer wanted her images and videos to be shown on Virtuagirls you promtly removed them from the site and made it so her cards could no longer be
purchased.

For those of us that had purchased her shows, you allowed us to be able to be redownload them if we had problems and the files we had had corrupted. But at this point because you had removed her images the card picture which showed she was in our collection was blank.

Then when you had to remove the shows files from your servers, those of us that had purchased and wanted our money back you then credited us for each of the shows in our collections.

So Totem lost out and those of us who wanted her shows lost out. The only one who did not lose out in my opinion is Camilla who got paid for her work and then later she has screwed over Totem and her fans.

Hope this helps @Rex.

I'd say let them show if there's images/videos on your site, I know I didn't find any since you removed them.

As a moderator of this forum, I can personally atest that Totem did remove access to the images and removed the right to download the cards for all who had not previously purchased this,

I am also aware of the all the complaints that Totem received for doing from members who had already purchased the cards.

I am also personally aware of members who have asked for and received refunds because of these actions by Totem to comply with the Court ruling.

I am fully prepared for this post or any other documentation that is requested for Totem to use to defend this action.

I can also testify that the cards were promptly removed in June 2011 and there's actually a topic on the forum which support this. Rex also posted on this topic June 23 2011 saying the cards were removed due to a lawsuit:

http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=4&ftId=18966

Du bist nicht befugt dieses Thema zu sehen oder auf mit dem Thema verwandte Daten zuzugreifen

I don't think anyone can ask for more proof than that topic alone that Totem did take action when asked to.

Regards
Jununger

Hello, i look in my site also for remove my creat picture of camilla.

hope that help and all user remove all picture of camilla, lol is not the time to have problem about this ridicule story.

now about all pictures of camilla in VG site, if you find one picture can you post here the link then one Mod can remove the picture, thanks in advance.


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edit -- Picture camilla removed of my site.

edit 2 -- i removed the creat picture of camilla of VG site a long time ago, but i take time for contrôl if i not post several time. loooolll 12946 posts to contrôl.


llllooollll Totem delete alllll mmmyyy post !!!!! ;-)

She sounds like a real keeper. Glad I never got any of her cards.

I confirm that Totem Entertainment removed and made unavailable to customers all the shows, pictures and animations from their site at the time they informed us, the customers, of a legal procedure against them by a model known here as Camilla. The mentioned content remains unavailable to date, even to those that once had the material related to this model.

I can Attest that on June 22, 2011. Totem removed Access to All of Camilla's Content from The Websites they are managing.

Further I can also attest to the ramifications from Existing Members who had previously purchased the Content Prior to the legal action, they have Sought out and Demanded a Refund from Totem, due to the Content not being available for re-download.

As of this posting 12-19-2012 4:23pm EST
Camilla's content remains totally removed from Totems Managed Websites.

http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=4&ftId=24109

Du bist nicht befugt dieses Thema zu sehen oder auf mit dem Thema verwandte Daten zuzugreifen

I never had one of her cards, but when all this legal issues started, it got my interest. I can attest that could not find any traces of her. Except the conversations here in the Forum. No pictures or videos.

http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=21810&pageNb=2

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this is one impossible work, i see tomorrow with the Team for one other solution for see all picture. and i am not here and not time and nobody are here for contrôl the site with the condition actual of see picture.

edit - i must stay calm lol.

I can vouch for this. They took her off and her pictures. However... I'm not sure if other people's websites made that promote VGHD will help you. I have seen some out there that still have her pics associated with you. I would post links but I do not want to get anyone in trouble. Just do a google search for Camilla VGHD.

You're getting carried away, Alerte. Totem is required to remove their own stuff and anything they once had related to this model; the users are not required to do anything. What users post is a part of a little something called: freedom of speech.

There's not a single request from Totem to remove anything posted by the users regarding this and happens that this is a private forum. Whether she likes it or not, she went public on the web once, as many other models now regreting their past and their image is still everywhere. She can ask common people not making a profit with her pictures, very nicely, to remove them if she wanted to do so, but not one of the users are obligated at all to comply.

If Totem rules out any image or mention to this particular model, they will instruct the mods to do so specifically and discourage the membership to stop posting about it. As long as it is not the case, is pointless to hunt for stuff nobody asked about.

lol @Oquijan i hope be a little more of simple user ;-) and that sur i not want become again a Mod. to stupid situation.

the problem are not what i think or one user think, the problem are to solve the problem camilla.

I`m a member from 2010 and I confirm that all content of camilla(pictures,videos and shows) was removed right away in June 2011 after Totem informed the members they lost a lawsuit with Camilla.

I testify that I didn`t see any content of performer Camilla on Totem sites from June 2011 when they lost the lawsuit with Camilla.

In the present time,all her content(Camilla`s content) is still removed from any Totem site.

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"WHICH MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A GOOD IDEA SINCE IT IS CLUTTERED WITH CRAP "

LOOOOLLLLL,CV.

I´m a memeber sice February 2008. I testify that Totem Entertainment removed and made unavailable to customers all the material concern to the model named Camilla from their site. We, the customers wore informed of a legal procedure. All this content remains unavailable even to those that once had the material related to this model.

I can confirm that I have been unable to find any pictures/videos etc. of Camilla on Totem sites since they were removed in June 2011.

I have been a member since Nov. 2008 and I can confirm that Totem did as the court ordered and removed all the content of a model named Camilla and made it so it was not available for purchase or download. I further testify that when I could no longer view said content I asked for, and received a refund from Totem

Camilla sucks for what she has done to us.

That really is not good, he mentioned a refund of the credits for the cards that we lost does anyone know how to collect them? It would certainly help me ease the ***** of not having her cards c2

If you pm Celine she can sort you out.

I became a member of VirtuaGirl on December 18, 2009. I testify that all images and videos of the model known on this site as Camilla were removed. Furthermore, all visual and verbal indications of, and references to, any visual data of said model being available for download were removed. These actions were explained as being due to legal action initiated by representatives of the model known as Camilla. I do so testify on this day of December 20, 2012.

Howzzat?

camilla...

you are a very pretty babe...
you only must thanks Totem, for having had the chance to become famous ...
but after this debacle, mistakes and trouble, of you...

agreements must be respected
it is ***** what you did to us
camilla you sucks for what she has done

I can attest cards are gone. never heard about a refund. Miss them ,liked her.

I know I read about this earlier in the year. I used to have her card but had deleted. I know that she is no longer available. Here is a link though relating to VG with Camilla: http://www.thevirtuagirl.com/page-22.html May want to get that taken down

PS. I never asked for a refund from Totem. If totem wants to restore my credits I will gladly accept them.