Just one more for today. If I seem to be all negativity, it's only because my rave reviews always go on the comments thread for the card. Also I've tabled any comment which I don't feel adds value; me saying I don't like the boots in "Magic Boots" would be pretty pointless, so I will confine myself to comments where my subjectivity isn't the main factor (although it is of course difficult to give completely unbiased opinon).

4. Nesty, "Nasty Girl". All of the cards I've mentioned today are ones that I might eventually download after all, if I become satisfied enough, and this one would probably be the first as she looks very nice in it. My problem here is a very simple one: the name. "Nasty" was a bad choice of words; while we Americans do have a habit of fetishizing words which mean "bad", this is a particularly egregious example, which suggests that Nesty is ill-tempered and vicious, or else physically unpleasant; it does not at all suggest that she's hot. Very off-putting.

@kidcadet

Yes, this is exactly the kind of insult that can and will get you a vacation. I usually give two warnings on ***** and most other things, if a third warning is needed, you have struck out.
I think that is plenty moderate, more than others would contend with, I'm sure.
There are much nicer ways to put things like "Aria is too big for my taste" and so on, you don't have to come out with a blatant insult to get a point across.
This gives me the feeling you are trying to test me and belittle me in the open forum, and as far as I know, you have done more insulting than anyone on this forum, yet you have the balls to talk about "too much" of anything, but we will forget the others for now and start with this one, consider this your first warning with the insulting remarks.

Aria is the kind of model we need more of.and if you ment MILF as an insult i guess you dont know what it means.

It seems to me you may be crossing the line between censorship and moderating. This is a paysite. Members pay to be here. If I think a girl is butt ugly, I can state this opinion. I pay for the privlidge. If this is deemed not permissable by Totem, they need to state this!

Nothing is directed at you! However I do feel you are overstepping your duties as a moderator. Censorship is never good. Even the staff would not venture into the abiss that you are entering. Just because your star is blue does not make your evaulation 100% always right!

@kidcadet

I think you have just been allowed to get away with far too much for far too long and you think you can keep on. I don't care if you have paid everything you own to this or any other site, that does not give you the right to insult and ***** others. Like it or not, that's the way it is !!!
Overstepping my duties as a mod? what? by not letting you get away with your petty ***** and name calling?
Keep on keeping on and see what happens to those who don't listen. If you would pay attention to and read the lower part of the window you use to post you would see exactly what I am talking about:

"Breaking our rules by not respecting the spirit and tone of the community or posting something that demands a disproportionate amount of time and moderation by our team may lead us to suspend or -in extreme cases, to bannish your account."

State all the opinions you want but leave the ***** and name calling elsewhere, it will not be tolerated here.
Name calling and blatant ***** are NOT the spirit of the community and that's that!!!!

If it were, everyone would be doing it so let it stop right here and now.

Some feel that the only freedom is complete and absolute freedom, while most feel that some level of control and guidelines are required in any forum. I ***** that without the level of control currently executed by our moderators that this forum would rapidly degenerate into the abys of oblivion and self destruction.

Most members accept this and are more than happy to have the mod-squad give them a gentle tap on the knuckles if they are heading out of line,,, others do not so readily take the "hint":)

Mod-squad, do they have bikes?
Avil.

Not, they have only vacuums to nude girls pictures...

I no! daniel.
oops.I know now.
Avil. :)

Your lack of neutrality really shows the personal vendetta that you are expressing.

Is this what a true moderator should be doing?

Say all you want, we ALL see what you have shown!

who has the personal vendetta?

i'm really ***** now :/

Personal, eh ??? Well I don't see me with anything personal until after your remarks trying to provoke me and belittle me in the open forum. YOU made it personal.

I do indeed hope everyone has seen what I have shown and that is "I don't play favoritisim for anybody, I don't care who you are or how long you have been around"

My first few statements had absolutely nothing to do with you, yet you felt the need to come in as your usual self and see what you could do to start an arguement.

Just a short while back one of the mods was in question as to whether he should ban a certain member and he asked about it in the team forum. Rex posted an answer to him in there and it went like this :

by Rex on Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:52 am

Ban any troublemaker without remorses. I think Christophe at the office banner him already because he answered to him. Not being nice to a mod or a Toterm employee is plenty enough for a week off the forum, you have my support on that, I'll I'll post in French to explain if needed.

Now, I am asking you for the last time, stop with the ***** and the name calling and the trying to start arguements with others.

Getting back to the initial topic this thread was originally designed for - (Graybeard is just doing his job - give him a break.)
@Pellucidar - C'mon! Melisa is a great dancer, better than a lot of the other girls who tend to sway their hips a lot. I like the way she sticks her ass out as she dancing. You should look at Karina and Laura then if you want a dancer. Overall Melisa's performance is almost flawless. She gives you everything a VGHD should include. She has the charm, the moves, the explicitness (though she is no Mai), and the personality to make a great show. Ha, like I said you won't like everything the majority of people like.

Nothing in your previous post has anything to do with me!

If YOU want, WE can continue! I prefer to end this, the outcome will not be good for you or I?

Please pardon me interrupting this ... thread.

I'll re-open it after I have time to read, re-read and fully digest
what is being said here.

Thread's open Gentlemen - please forgive the inconvenience.

(with unbridled enthusiasm)

Yaye !!!

@Pellucidar I must disagree about Melisa. She's a top girl in here and almost, to me, of course, the perfect VGirl. There's nothing i don't like about her. If there's something to critique, it falls on the makers, IMHO. It's a matter of personal taste. ;)

I have a question for you. How comes that you're critizing cards that you don't own and that obviously you haven't seen? Are you just basing your judgement by watching the trailers and or the pics?
None of the cards you're talking about are in your collection, so unless you have a different account, i wonder how did you came to your conclusions. It's like rating a card based only in the stills.

@Oquijan your disrupting the flow of this thread by bringing logic into it!LOL

I too would like to know how Pellucidar can moan about cards he hasn't seen:

Jennifer Max Firecracker = NOT IN HIS COLLECTION
Also Lucie T Copacabana = NOT IN HIS COLLECTION
Also Melissa = NONE OF HER CARDS ARE IN HIS COLLECTION
Also Diana Doll Magic Boots = NOT IN HIS COLLECTION
Also Nesty Nasty Girl = NOT IN HIS COLLECTION

As always this is the problem with the present rating system, clueless people that haven't bought the cards and therefore have no idea about the content get to venture a worthless opinion based on a very short and incomplete trailer and about 8 photos, an opinion that might deter possible purchasers.

As a member currently with 557 cards about to complete the grand slam in 29 days on the 27th January I have a few cards I wish I hadn't got but to balance this I also have several cards that I definitely wouldn't have bought but which I have thoroughly enjoyed nevertheless, I can at least argue from a position of strength through knowledge.

Agreed, how can one judge cards with just little short 30 second clips from trailers, when you have the full shows THEN you can comment, the trailers are nothing more than a sneak peek anyways like a movie trailer, hence the name TRAILER. P.S. Melisa is and always will be awesome :)

Well I am a user with a small collection of cards (for the time being), but I must agree about Melisa. From what I have seen she is an awesome dancer and the way she moves can be mesmerizing. In my book I see her as a VGHD Goddess....... ALL HAIL MELISA !! ;)

The purpose of the trailers is to enable me to judge whether or not to spend a ticket on a full show. If the trailer is bad, the quality of the full show is irrelevant, because I'm not buying the full show.

As I said before, Melisa is very pretty, but if her dancing is capable of pleasing me, I have yet to see it happen. And it's not like I'm short on dancers who can impress me. Morgaine, Susan, Ellen, Julya, Vicky S, Mina, Tarra, Chems...the list goes on and on, and Melisa isn't on it, at least not so far. It's possible that eventually I'll be able to fit her in based just on her looks, but she has tough competition.

@Pellucidar - With the exception of Tarra White, almost none of the girls you mentioned are really dancers. They move well but don't dance. They mostly have a very limited number of dance moves and rely on seduction to make up for that. Laura, Melisa, and Karina are the real dancers.

Kinda surprised to see anyone not be impressed with Melisa. She's almost a perfect example of what a VGHD girl is supposed to be.

As for you judging the cards without buying them, eh, people give the girls high ratings without looking at the full show, some people will buy the show, watch the trailer and determine whether they like it or not, and few people actually voice their opinion of a card BEFORE watching the entire card, so it is no ***** done.

you cannot judge a model by the trailers its hard even to tell what a girl can do just from 1 card many times one card is not very good and another is awsome

You must have a different definition of "dance" than I do. The "moves" you speak of are what I was referring to.

5. Walleria, "Puerto Rico"
Walleria is achingly beautiful, and I'm not going to say she isn't a good dancer per se, but I was disappointed to find that I am not impressed with her dance style, since she has an incredibly perfect appearance and I would have loved to have her for my latest crush. Her motions are very cool and languid, and I can see how someone who's turned off by wild gyrations might find her cool, smooth style to be a breath of fresh air. I'm simply not one of them.

It occurs to me that my collection has gotten large enough that I could begin to consider buying a girl not for the fullshow at all, but for the full photo collection. We shall see whether I ever decide this is practical; sadly, porn on the Internet is a glutted market and I can seldom justify paying for girlie pics. VGHD is worth money to me because it is something unique; pinups are not.

Well, if nothing else, Pellucidar's argument serves to point again why only people who owns the cards should be able to rate them. ;)

@V2Now: This is unacceptible. If a card makes the model look bad and Totem sells it anyway, the model should be able to have the card removed or improved. I will not buy card after card of a dancer who has not proven her quality right off the bat; there are too many that can do exactly that for me to spend any time, let alone any money, on someone in the hope they'll improve.

That said, I have changed my opinion on dancers before. If I get a Melisa trailer that I haven't seen before, I will look at it with interest to see whether it succeeds where her others have failed. This has already happened more than once, so I will watch over the course of the coming year, and hopefully will have a generous list of favorites by the time another holiday special occurs.

you dont have a collection come back when you have enough cards to begin having an informed opinion